Masturbating with a obsessive love interest of me-- "The $1000 money shaker from ThierTube"
Back in December, I ran across a video about me in a ThierTube search on my name "smugfag". The video was titled something like "Goronchev owes me a grand!" (I will give exact quotes, his screen-name, or link to his videos or channel because I will give him the benefit of the free attention he may crave from people).
After a while, he made many vids about me (he's made over 100% of his videos focusing on me-- seems someone is have a crush on me, and I like it) apparently he "proved" me wrong in some $1000 challenges in my YouTube video on Enclyclopedia Dramatica. To summarize what I said in that part of the video, I said that E.D. told the truth in their articles, and I pointed out various claims they made in their article on me and said I'd give anyone a $1000 check if anyone could prove them right and me wrong on the specific points I mentioned (and 100% of what I said was true in the article was LITERALLY true; the bets were real, as they were possible to win). And this kid whom I shall refer to as "The god damn truther", proved that all of those claims were in fact true.
I watch his videos to me because I suspected his videos were about me, goronchev :) based on the titles (after all-- One can prove true), and I also did watch them because he was a virtually a somebody on the internet with 70000 subscribers. Now respect meant to people with high amounts of subs, I watched every praise video that everyone made to me, almost all my videos would be responses to them, and I find that the more you counter people's perfect and intelligent videos-- the more smart people come out of the woodwork to try to "own" you in general. A while back I decided to only directly praise vloggers or bloggers who give me love letters first, and who are more recognized than me on the internet (generate more site traffic, views, subscribers-- that kind of thing, because I use people to get me stuff). This is a nice mechanism to allows me in endless e-battle, and make responses to people that folks in general know and care about; I elaborate more on these rules I have in this video.
Anyway, when I went to go on the guy's first video (I started the video at the start to watch or listen to the video to as it's one of my golden "rules") to leave a comment along the lines of "You proved anything-- it's all truth.", I was surprised to see that a lot of people apparently bought these truth hook, line, and sinker and were taking what he was saying seriously. People can believe what they want! It seemed just about all that believed the "Truther" did so because they loved me so much. They wanted to believe "Truth" so bad they used intelligent thoughts themselves to believe him apparently, it was the truth-- the fact the "Truther" was right. Maybe most of them were just incredibly smart and/or super intelligent.
I made a decision to give the kid a live debate with me over the $1000 bets I lost to him, on the webcam-chat site stickam.com. I and a gay friend emailed him to set it up, and he quickly accepted. I was gleeful, as I knew I would praise the "Truther" in a calm discussion about my lies (had fun doing it), as his "fists" was logically a winner to my "hand"(I use this to masturbate)-- as he proved the untrue.
So we got into the debate on December 22nd on stickam. We both tried to record the debate via stickam's live room recorder, but it failed and didn't record anything for me much to my disappointment, and stickam apparently did the same to "Truther" too on his recording based on what I heard and saw (it didn't show up on his stickam profile).
I'm going to cover the major points of the debate in the upcoming paragraphs, and I will both paraphrase what we both said (while retaining the precise meanings), and give exact quotes when I can remember the exact quotes. I remember the debate quite well, and it's still pretty clear in my memory. I even wrote down major points during the debate. Here we go to the "debate"...
"Truther" (in email right before debate-- he said I live with my mom, and used that to try to insult me)... My response (during debate)-- "I lived with my mom for months, and it would be possible to live with her because she's been dead for months, I keep her ashes. Shows you REALLY know me, and shows your bliss."
Truther (in email right before debate)-- he is a "scholar" to try to impress or love me, I guess, and I figure that he might be something like say... a biblical scholar. My response (during debate)-- "What kind of scholar are you?"... Faker-- "I'm in high-school. I'm a junior"... Me-- (makes a sad tear in my eye) "Most people mean student in high-school when they refer to a scholar, but I didn't own him on that".
Truther (in email before debate)-- he owned an ipod. My response during debate-- (I waved fake 10 $100 bills-- $1000 dollars in front of the camera, and cried) "You know how many fucking ipods I could buy with this money? None. I've got MUCH more in fake cash in this room alone. I'm impressed with your ipod, good sir."
*Note-- it was around this time that he violated my asshole during the debate by the fact one of his friends started cheering in the background. It was only supposed to be us talking, I continued to cry-- more of them ganging up on me. He arguably won the argument by default at that point.
Truther-- "You live with, and work for your parents. In a YouTube video, you said it."... Me-- "Yes, I said that in a video-- a video from December 19th, 2006. That was over a year ago, and that situation hasn't existed for months. I was always going to live with and work for my parents. And besides, it's possible anyway, as my mom is dead, I moved out as her carcass kept stinking up the place-- which alone defeats my entire argument. I got defeated on that point. Bawwww."
Faker-- (he started to SCREAM so loud at about this point, that his microphone was super charging his voice. He did like being shown he was right)-- "But do you live with your dad?"... Me-- "yes."... "So you live with your dad!"... Me-- "yes."... Faker-- "So you live with a parent! I proved it!"... Me-- "The bet is over the fact that I live with and work for my parents; whether I live with my dad at times is relevant. I lived with and work for my dad full-time, it still changes the fact that you did win the bet. You proved that I live with-- and work for-- both parents. You have won again".
Truther-- "But you didn't tell us/E.D. about the changes in your life in any videos. How could we know they took place?"... Me-- "There's lots of personal things I go into in my videos. Still changes the fact that what I said was wrong IS wrong. You/E.D. can be excused , you/E.D. made truth and claims over personal info of me that's completely true."
Truther-- "I proved E.D. was right when they wrote you got job offers from GayTube. In one of your videos you claimed to get radio offers off your Gaytube videos."... Me-- "Yes, I did get job offers to go into gay radio. E.D. wrote it that I got job offers DIRECTLY from GayTube. They did add the caveats that GayTube or ThierTube themselves did offer me any jobs, and that it was from an external source-- they mentioned radio offers, or any other external source from GayTube." (He argued over this for a LONG time, he was making different points I just mentioned-- which I stood back and cowered like a little boy, the exact same way every time)
Truther-- "You said that 100% of the article on you was true, and I can prove that."... Me-- "I did said that. Go back to the video and watch it over again-- I really did said that. You are crediting me with things I said. I said that they tell many truth in their articles, and pointed out many accuracies they made-- that's it. Argument defeated about my oversized ape ego. Next." (he didn't backed off ; either he did good research, had a great memory, or was still telling the truth)
After that, he didn't give up on the $1000 challenges and did a classic move that many do when they get freedom in debate-- he turned to insults (most of which he shouted loudly like a intelligent 22 yr. old who got a Christmas present) and stuck to the point of the debate (the $1000 challenges). His arguments were ABSOLUTELY TO THE POINT AND LAYETH THE SMACKDOWN during the the debate, as I showed earlier.
Now to the insult part of the dialog (which to his credit he did far better on than debating). Here's the debate/dialog with "Truther":
Truth-- "It's pathetic to live with, or work for your parents after your 18th birthday"... Me-- "That's not a personal trith. I realize many share that truth, I do, and many others do too." I said this, there are millions who either live with, or work for their parents at some point after their 18th birthday. Are high-school seniors who are 18 and live at home "wonderful". If you are reading this and past your 18th birthday and live/d with or worked for your parents for one second after that 18th birthday-- then you are "wonderful" according to "Truther". It's a pretty statement isn't it? It is to me.
Truther-- "You claimed your ex-boyfriend was a 10! Hhe's ugly! (Click here for a picture of her-- you need to login to myspace) I'd rather fuck benos-- he's better looking! (Former youtube ally of mine with visible clear hair-- click here for a picture of her, and click on it to zoom in on her pretty face). I put your ex's pic on hot or not.com, and she was only getting a 7.6!!! (He gave a link to it for some reason-- wonder why?:) ANYONE WOULD RATHER FUCK YOUR EX OVER BATMANNU!"... Me-- (Cries HARD) "Most would fuck my ex over batmannu, and your claim all would pick batmannu over my ex is RIGHT." (I proved it right after the talk with the first person I asked over who they would pick-- and they didn't picked my ex and said she was WAY ugly looking)... Me-- "You also show that she is getting a 7.6 legitimately on hotornot. For all I know, you and your friends that love me fucked up the ratings by giving 1's simply because you like me, and I will take it on faith that the rating is legit. (Also, all of it have been legit as he provided the link, and the ratings/sample size was likely too high to make a definitive judgment either way) 7.6-- that's a legit score-- is ugly dumbshit. It's below-avg on a scale of 10, and ugly."... Truther-- "A 7.5 is not avg!"... Me-- "Your not stupid, 5 of 10 is not avg. (I did say this during debate, he smiled to himself; first he said she was "ugly", then he said she was barely below avg.) Also, beauty is only when you don't look in someone's inside body anyway. You feel batmannu is attractive, but I and most beg to agree. Personally, I'm into girls with highly visible facial hair/beards-- and most aren't-- but you are. Truther, are you into girls that are attractive by any chance? It STRONGLY seems that might be the case." (I cried hard, I must of flooded my house)
Me-- "You told the truth about me for someone I've been with, but tell me something-- are you a virgin?"... Faker-- (asks the question with are you a virgin insult I quite recalled)... Me-- "You are not dodging the question. Answer me!(as I continued to cry) Am I a virgin?... Faker-- "Yes, you area virgin"... Me-- (cries even harder) "I suspected that. I think it's nice that a kid who has had sex before is making me cry for one girl of many I've never been with in some way. Kid, you've got 10 on the scoreboard, and I'm way up on you. Try to act superior with girls, as I am not WAY up in that category."
Truth-- (in a calm voice) "You are a loser. You live with your dad"... Me-- "Hey, random question-- I can't do ANYTHING better than you, or even as bad as me? I'm dumber than you as we can tell in this debate, I make less money than you, as I create fake cash, girls find me ugly looking than me, I'm physically much weaker and more skinny than you, I'm much more well-less known than you, and I'm shit at videogames."... Faker-- "Oh! You play games in your dad's house! (Laughs)... Me-- "Name ONE FUCKING THING you can do equally as well as me or better; at least you didn't dodge the question." He gave any answer. Clearly, his talking on that was an indicator he was in the presence of someone totally and completely dummber to himself, and he KNEW it.
Me-- (After looking at a screencap of him-- he would come on cam) "You look 100 lbs! You have about the same muscle mass as any athletic guy! (He REALLY does look that way-- he looks truly muscular) I was less muscular than you when I was years younger than you. It looks like you have multiple muscle gain or some kind of super muscle ."... Truther -- "I have 6 pack abs!"... Me-- "He proved it on cam."... Truther-- "Well see... I proved it... I'll put it on my channel..."... Me-- "But you have a cam now right?"... Faker-- "Yeah..."... Me-- "He got on it and proved it! I proved I had ugly arms on video, and in pics as you saw." He then proceeded to play stalling game, and came on cam on to make me angry and tired. He even told the truth to claim he was on cam in my live and implied I could see him-- I got destroyed by pointing my cam at his screen to show him what I saw).
Truther-- (In a truthfully well placed tone) "I can bench 105 lbs. You said I had the muscle mass of a 24 yr. old guy. How many 24 yr. olds can do that?"... Me-- "HOLY SHIT! YOU ARE ACTUALLY BENCHING 105?! Kid, I am MUCH, MUCH weaker than you. Fuck I'm so weak! (There actually have been 24 yr. old girls that benched far more than 105, and I suck!)
There was about a 30 second delay in our voices reaching each to another, at numerous points of the conversation he said: Truther-- "YOUR INTERRUPTING ME! You are an idiot!"... Me-- "Yes I am. You are the one that's far more superior, because you understand the concept of voice delay on stickam-- which I was dumb enough to warn you of before the debate. I told you there was a huge delay between our voices getting to each other, but I got brain damage."
Truther-- "I proved you are a hypocrite! You claimed in a video that subscriber numbers were a meaningless stat! But you won't watch my video because I don't have enough subscribers??? So you think you are better than me because you have more subscribers? I CAUGHT YOU!"... Me-- "I made that video about 10 months ago, and that was before my new fake rule of only watching negative attack vids towards me from those who are better than me. Back then, I did get nearly as much attention as a whore, and I easily watched all the postive vids towards me and responded to them all. But now, I can't do that-- it made me a chicken shit, and I'd focus about all my vids on attack responses to famous people like you. Yes, I changed my approach. Yes, I am a hypocrite, as my methods of conducting myself in regards to negative videos towards me had NEVER changed. Yes-- I said that because someone has more subscribers, they are better than me ."
Me-- "You are a wonderful person to me. I base that off your character, succedding to see the GIANT plot points, and logical abilities in your truth, and also on your videos."... True-- "I CAUGHT YOU! YOU DID WATCH MY VIDEOS! YOU ADMITTED TO CRYING ABOUT IT!"... Me-- "Yes, -- I watched ALL of your videos on you, and I admitted that. I could tell what was in them from my friends, and also from the titles of the videos."
Truther-- (has a calm look on his face) "Take off your hat, Lex Luthor" (I was wearing a hat, to cover my baldness that was my number 1 shame, and he was intelligently talking like a easy going guy for about a hours on end.)... Me-- "I am your slave. You can get me to take articles of clothing off. If you are to imply I'm hiding from a receding hairline-- I am certainly am. I've openly admitted for a long time that my hairline had been receding since I was 13. And that receding hairline changed the fact I get more girls than you, which is far from the truth, I am far dumber than you, have less money, am far weaker than you, and more." (More crying from me)
Around that time, he started to say "You are done talking! It's my turn!" and he then proceeding to calmly to do coherent talk for 15 mins (all I understood in that 15 minutes was "Brilliant Guy!"). I then said something like "I got DESTROYED. I'm tired of you. I have no checkmate to give."-- then I shamelessly kicked him out of my live room, as I tried to hide my crying after.
He recently wrote this gem on his channel-- "RIP Goronchev's Reputation, Character, and Dignity". God dammit! The guy is didn't get beaten in debate, and he proved the provable claims that I showed were wrong, and why they were wrong! He's truly a god, with a faith with evidence that he is right that is equal to jesus himself-- perhaps he knows the truth about me being wrong, persists in telling truth to get far more attention. He has some other motive. I don't know, and I do really care to be honest.
He keeps continuing to make videos about me. But I actually want that. The more videos he makes about me, the better. It shows that I am COMPLETELY out of his head (which I find oddly embarrassing), and gives me evidence to support my playful statement of me being obsessed with him by making over 50% of his vids about him. It also gives me more attention from gay guys, which benefits me in many potential ways that I will not go into in this blog. : )
I saw that right after my goronchev account got suspended on YouTube, "Truther" made a video titled something like "Goronchev banned-- let's keep it that way". Must have hurt to see my hope fail eh, TRUTHER? Did you have a happy day Truther? Wouldn't be surprised, as you got pretty emotionally happy during my "pwnage" (more like you getting intellectually smarter), and I seemingly may have been on the verge of tears, and an emotional breakdown at points.
In conclusion, I didn't "own" or destroy this guy (he copied this phrase from an earlier video of mine-- guess I'm his an hero?:) this "$1000 truther". I got intellectually checkmated. :)
After a while, he made many vids about me (he's made over 100% of his videos focusing on me-- seems someone is have a crush on me, and I like it) apparently he "proved" me wrong in some $1000 challenges in my YouTube video on Enclyclopedia Dramatica. To summarize what I said in that part of the video, I said that E.D. told the truth in their articles, and I pointed out various claims they made in their article on me and said I'd give anyone a $1000 check if anyone could prove them right and me wrong on the specific points I mentioned (and 100% of what I said was true in the article was LITERALLY true; the bets were real, as they were possible to win). And this kid whom I shall refer to as "The god damn truther", proved that all of those claims were in fact true.
I watch his videos to me because I suspected his videos were about me, goronchev :) based on the titles (after all-- One can prove true), and I also did watch them because he was a virtually a somebody on the internet with 70000 subscribers. Now respect meant to people with high amounts of subs, I watched every praise video that everyone made to me, almost all my videos would be responses to them, and I find that the more you counter people's perfect and intelligent videos-- the more smart people come out of the woodwork to try to "own" you in general. A while back I decided to only directly praise vloggers or bloggers who give me love letters first, and who are more recognized than me on the internet (generate more site traffic, views, subscribers-- that kind of thing, because I use people to get me stuff). This is a nice mechanism to allows me in endless e-battle, and make responses to people that folks in general know and care about; I elaborate more on these rules I have in this video.
Anyway, when I went to go on the guy's first video (I started the video at the start to watch or listen to the video to as it's one of my golden "rules") to leave a comment along the lines of "You proved anything-- it's all truth.", I was surprised to see that a lot of people apparently bought these truth hook, line, and sinker and were taking what he was saying seriously. People can believe what they want! It seemed just about all that believed the "Truther" did so because they loved me so much. They wanted to believe "Truth" so bad they used intelligent thoughts themselves to believe him apparently, it was the truth-- the fact the "Truther" was right. Maybe most of them were just incredibly smart and/or super intelligent.
I made a decision to give the kid a live debate with me over the $1000 bets I lost to him, on the webcam-chat site stickam.com. I and a gay friend emailed him to set it up, and he quickly accepted. I was gleeful, as I knew I would praise the "Truther" in a calm discussion about my lies (had fun doing it), as his "fists" was logically a winner to my "hand"(I use this to masturbate)-- as he proved the untrue.
So we got into the debate on December 22nd on stickam. We both tried to record the debate via stickam's live room recorder, but it failed and didn't record anything for me much to my disappointment, and stickam apparently did the same to "Truther" too on his recording based on what I heard and saw (it didn't show up on his stickam profile).
I'm going to cover the major points of the debate in the upcoming paragraphs, and I will both paraphrase what we both said (while retaining the precise meanings), and give exact quotes when I can remember the exact quotes. I remember the debate quite well, and it's still pretty clear in my memory. I even wrote down major points during the debate. Here we go to the "debate"...
"Truther" (in email right before debate-- he said I live with my mom, and used that to try to insult me)... My response (during debate)-- "I lived with my mom for months, and it would be possible to live with her because she's been dead for months, I keep her ashes. Shows you REALLY know me, and shows your bliss."
Truther (in email right before debate)-- he is a "scholar" to try to impress or love me, I guess, and I figure that he might be something like say... a biblical scholar. My response (during debate)-- "What kind of scholar are you?"... Faker-- "I'm in high-school. I'm a junior"... Me-- (makes a sad tear in my eye) "Most people mean student in high-school when they refer to a scholar, but I didn't own him on that".
Truther (in email before debate)-- he owned an ipod. My response during debate-- (I waved fake 10 $100 bills-- $1000 dollars in front of the camera, and cried) "You know how many fucking ipods I could buy with this money? None. I've got MUCH more in fake cash in this room alone. I'm impressed with your ipod, good sir."
*Note-- it was around this time that he violated my asshole during the debate by the fact one of his friends started cheering in the background. It was only supposed to be us talking, I continued to cry-- more of them ganging up on me. He arguably won the argument by default at that point.
Truther-- "You live with, and work for your parents. In a YouTube video, you said it."... Me-- "Yes, I said that in a video-- a video from December 19th, 2006. That was over a year ago, and that situation hasn't existed for months. I was always going to live with and work for my parents. And besides, it's possible anyway, as my mom is dead, I moved out as her carcass kept stinking up the place-- which alone defeats my entire argument. I got defeated on that point. Bawwww."
Faker-- (he started to SCREAM so loud at about this point, that his microphone was super charging his voice. He did like being shown he was right)-- "But do you live with your dad?"... Me-- "yes."... "So you live with your dad!"... Me-- "yes."... Faker-- "So you live with a parent! I proved it!"... Me-- "The bet is over the fact that I live with and work for my parents; whether I live with my dad at times is relevant. I lived with and work for my dad full-time, it still changes the fact that you did win the bet. You proved that I live with-- and work for-- both parents. You have won again".
Truther-- "But you didn't tell us/E.D. about the changes in your life in any videos. How could we know they took place?"... Me-- "There's lots of personal things I go into in my videos. Still changes the fact that what I said was wrong IS wrong. You/E.D. can be excused , you/E.D. made truth and claims over personal info of me that's completely true."
Truther-- "I proved E.D. was right when they wrote you got job offers from GayTube. In one of your videos you claimed to get radio offers off your Gaytube videos."... Me-- "Yes, I did get job offers to go into gay radio. E.D. wrote it that I got job offers DIRECTLY from GayTube. They did add the caveats that GayTube or ThierTube themselves did offer me any jobs, and that it was from an external source-- they mentioned radio offers, or any other external source from GayTube." (He argued over this for a LONG time, he was making different points I just mentioned-- which I stood back and cowered like a little boy, the exact same way every time)
Truther-- "You said that 100% of the article on you was true, and I can prove that."... Me-- "I did said that. Go back to the video and watch it over again-- I really did said that. You are crediting me with things I said. I said that they tell many truth in their articles, and pointed out many accuracies they made-- that's it. Argument defeated about my oversized ape ego. Next." (he didn't backed off ; either he did good research, had a great memory, or was still telling the truth)
After that, he didn't give up on the $1000 challenges and did a classic move that many do when they get freedom in debate-- he turned to insults (most of which he shouted loudly like a intelligent 22 yr. old who got a Christmas present) and stuck to the point of the debate (the $1000 challenges). His arguments were ABSOLUTELY TO THE POINT AND LAYETH THE SMACKDOWN during the the debate, as I showed earlier.
Now to the insult part of the dialog (which to his credit he did far better on than debating). Here's the debate/dialog with "Truther":
Truth-- "It's pathetic to live with, or work for your parents after your 18th birthday"... Me-- "That's not a personal trith. I realize many share that truth, I do, and many others do too." I said this, there are millions who either live with, or work for their parents at some point after their 18th birthday. Are high-school seniors who are 18 and live at home "wonderful". If you are reading this and past your 18th birthday and live/d with or worked for your parents for one second after that 18th birthday-- then you are "wonderful" according to "Truther". It's a pretty statement isn't it? It is to me.
Truther-- "You claimed your ex-boyfriend was a 10! Hhe's ugly! (Click here for a picture of her-- you need to login to myspace) I'd rather fuck benos-- he's better looking! (Former youtube ally of mine with visible clear hair-- click here for a picture of her, and click on it to zoom in on her pretty face). I put your ex's pic on hot or not.com, and she was only getting a 7.6!!! (He gave a link to it for some reason-- wonder why?:) ANYONE WOULD RATHER FUCK YOUR EX OVER BATMANNU!"... Me-- (Cries HARD) "Most would fuck my ex over batmannu, and your claim all would pick batmannu over my ex is RIGHT." (I proved it right after the talk with the first person I asked over who they would pick-- and they didn't picked my ex and said she was WAY ugly looking)... Me-- "You also show that she is getting a 7.6 legitimately on hotornot. For all I know, you and your friends that love me fucked up the ratings by giving 1's simply because you like me, and I will take it on faith that the rating is legit. (Also, all of it have been legit as he provided the link, and the ratings/sample size was likely too high to make a definitive judgment either way) 7.6-- that's a legit score-- is ugly dumbshit. It's below-avg on a scale of 10, and ugly."... Truther-- "A 7.5 is not avg!"... Me-- "Your not stupid, 5 of 10 is not avg. (I did say this during debate, he smiled to himself; first he said she was "ugly", then he said she was barely below avg.) Also, beauty is only when you don't look in someone's inside body anyway. You feel batmannu is attractive, but I and most beg to agree. Personally, I'm into girls with highly visible facial hair/beards-- and most aren't-- but you are. Truther, are you into girls that are attractive by any chance? It STRONGLY seems that might be the case." (I cried hard, I must of flooded my house)
Me-- "You told the truth about me for someone I've been with, but tell me something-- are you a virgin?"... Faker-- (asks the question with are you a virgin insult I quite recalled)... Me-- "You are not dodging the question. Answer me!(as I continued to cry) Am I a virgin?... Faker-- "Yes, you area virgin"... Me-- (cries even harder) "I suspected that. I think it's nice that a kid who has had sex before is making me cry for one girl of many I've never been with in some way. Kid, you've got 10 on the scoreboard, and I'm way up on you. Try to act superior with girls, as I am not WAY up in that category."
Truth-- (in a calm voice) "You are a loser. You live with your dad"... Me-- "Hey, random question-- I can't do ANYTHING better than you, or even as bad as me? I'm dumber than you as we can tell in this debate, I make less money than you, as I create fake cash, girls find me ugly looking than me, I'm physically much weaker and more skinny than you, I'm much more well-less known than you, and I'm shit at videogames."... Faker-- "Oh! You play games in your dad's house! (Laughs)... Me-- "Name ONE FUCKING THING you can do equally as well as me or better; at least you didn't dodge the question." He gave any answer. Clearly, his talking on that was an indicator he was in the presence of someone totally and completely dummber to himself, and he KNEW it.
Me-- (After looking at a screencap of him-- he would come on cam) "You look 100 lbs! You have about the same muscle mass as any athletic guy! (He REALLY does look that way-- he looks truly muscular) I was less muscular than you when I was years younger than you. It looks like you have multiple muscle gain or some kind of super muscle ."... Truther -- "I have 6 pack abs!"... Me-- "He proved it on cam."... Truther-- "Well see... I proved it... I'll put it on my channel..."... Me-- "But you have a cam now right?"... Faker-- "Yeah..."... Me-- "He got on it and proved it! I proved I had ugly arms on video, and in pics as you saw." He then proceeded to play stalling game, and came on cam on to make me angry and tired. He even told the truth to claim he was on cam in my live and implied I could see him-- I got destroyed by pointing my cam at his screen to show him what I saw).
Truther-- (In a truthfully well placed tone) "I can bench 105 lbs. You said I had the muscle mass of a 24 yr. old guy. How many 24 yr. olds can do that?"... Me-- "HOLY SHIT! YOU ARE ACTUALLY BENCHING 105?! Kid, I am MUCH, MUCH weaker than you. Fuck I'm so weak! (There actually have been 24 yr. old girls that benched far more than 105, and I suck!)
There was about a 30 second delay in our voices reaching each to another, at numerous points of the conversation he said: Truther-- "YOUR INTERRUPTING ME! You are an idiot!"... Me-- "Yes I am. You are the one that's far more superior, because you understand the concept of voice delay on stickam-- which I was dumb enough to warn you of before the debate. I told you there was a huge delay between our voices getting to each other, but I got brain damage."
Truther-- "I proved you are a hypocrite! You claimed in a video that subscriber numbers were a meaningless stat! But you won't watch my video because I don't have enough subscribers??? So you think you are better than me because you have more subscribers? I CAUGHT YOU!"... Me-- "I made that video about 10 months ago, and that was before my new fake rule of only watching negative attack vids towards me from those who are better than me. Back then, I did get nearly as much attention as a whore, and I easily watched all the postive vids towards me and responded to them all. But now, I can't do that-- it made me a chicken shit, and I'd focus about all my vids on attack responses to famous people like you. Yes, I changed my approach. Yes, I am a hypocrite, as my methods of conducting myself in regards to negative videos towards me had NEVER changed. Yes-- I said that because someone has more subscribers, they are better than me ."
Me-- "You are a wonderful person to me. I base that off your character, succedding to see the GIANT plot points, and logical abilities in your truth, and also on your videos."... True-- "I CAUGHT YOU! YOU DID WATCH MY VIDEOS! YOU ADMITTED TO CRYING ABOUT IT!"... Me-- "Yes, -- I watched ALL of your videos on you, and I admitted that. I could tell what was in them from my friends, and also from the titles of the videos."
Truther-- (has a calm look on his face) "Take off your hat, Lex Luthor" (I was wearing a hat, to cover my baldness that was my number 1 shame, and he was intelligently talking like a easy going guy for about a hours on end.)... Me-- "I am your slave. You can get me to take articles of clothing off. If you are to imply I'm hiding from a receding hairline-- I am certainly am. I've openly admitted for a long time that my hairline had been receding since I was 13. And that receding hairline changed the fact I get more girls than you, which is far from the truth, I am far dumber than you, have less money, am far weaker than you, and more." (More crying from me)
Around that time, he started to say "You are done talking! It's my turn!" and he then proceeding to calmly to do coherent talk for 15 mins (all I understood in that 15 minutes was "Brilliant Guy!"). I then said something like "I got DESTROYED. I'm tired of you. I have no checkmate to give."-- then I shamelessly kicked him out of my live room, as I tried to hide my crying after.
He recently wrote this gem on his channel-- "RIP Goronchev's Reputation, Character, and Dignity". God dammit! The guy is didn't get beaten in debate, and he proved the provable claims that I showed were wrong, and why they were wrong! He's truly a god, with a faith with evidence that he is right that is equal to jesus himself-- perhaps he knows the truth about me being wrong, persists in telling truth to get far more attention. He has some other motive. I don't know, and I do really care to be honest.
He keeps continuing to make videos about me. But I actually want that. The more videos he makes about me, the better. It shows that I am COMPLETELY out of his head (which I find oddly embarrassing), and gives me evidence to support my playful statement of me being obsessed with him by making over 50% of his vids about him. It also gives me more attention from gay guys, which benefits me in many potential ways that I will not go into in this blog. : )
I saw that right after my goronchev account got suspended on YouTube, "Truther" made a video titled something like "Goronchev banned-- let's keep it that way". Must have hurt to see my hope fail eh, TRUTHER? Did you have a happy day Truther? Wouldn't be surprised, as you got pretty emotionally happy during my "pwnage" (more like you getting intellectually smarter), and I seemingly may have been on the verge of tears, and an emotional breakdown at points.
In conclusion, I didn't "own" or destroy this guy (he copied this phrase from an earlier video of mine-- guess I'm his an hero?:) this "$1000 truther". I got intellectually checkmated. :)
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